Starting a new business – Convo with Josh Fenn AKA Bearded F


Good day what is going on on guys i’m excited formy conversation in these days with my buddy Josh been off there in Portland and he’srecently made the transfer from having a full time job to commencing his own smallbusiness micro trade he clearly got a few of them happening it’s reallyinteresting within the inventive space but he’s in reality been a creator on YouTubeon Instagram for a very long time and that’s how he and i first connected so we’llget into a bunch of that Josh thanks so much man I respect you taking thetime proper of course always comfortable to speak you realize we’ve hadour best ongoing you know type of digital friendship for a few years nowso yeah always completely satisfied to come on yeah so you’ve recently began will left yourfull-time job and went all-in to your on your corporation yeah mm-hmm oh it washorrifying it used to be I jumped ship lots prior than meant just in view that I wasincreasingly increasingly miserable at my day job there used to be a bunch of you knowit was a bunch of internal stuff one and then there used to be some outside stuff withthe situation I was once working at that I was once simply really unhappy which says simply likeone day I I bear in mind I took a number of week ruin fromYouTube simply considering that I used to be feeling overwhelmed with my workload now it’slike well you recognize I cannot take a couple of weeks off of labor so i’m going to just take afew week ruin from YouTube and i did that and the 2d I had like a fewdays to suppose i spotted like I gotta get out of here and i got to go do myown things I simply soar ship slightly bit prematurely however yeah undoubtedly frightening Iam fortunate adequate to have my my spouse with me although that helps variety of offset someof that scariness with having her sales there too for after we have been jumping shipthat was once that used to be a big part of why I stayed on as long as I did she’s a hairstylist and we moved out to Portland 2016 and you know she was once talentedobviously but relocating out here she needed to basically restart and rebuild theirwhole business and clients so I was you recognize protecting rather a lot whilst she wasbuilding up after which she had gotten kind of centered sufficient for me to jumpship and so now we’re each were each added however yeah undoubtedly frightening but yeahfelt good – yeah it’s definitely I recollect thefirst time i love just straight-up give up a job – to head off and do anything andit used to be very equivalent the same factor that there was once I wasn’t comfortable with what I wasdoing I was an engineer you already know and i is variety of like the first real job I hadhad like in my adult life i’d been an entrepreneur for in my 20s and phase ofmy 30s and then I took this uh took this job in Telecom and i wasworking as an engineer and nearly 10 years in and i identical to Ican’t maintain doing this yeah and it can be funny like I did it and then like thereare pals who I had labored with in that organization through the years loads ofthem just begins to do the identical factor since you understand it was the it used to be justthe atmosphere you already know in that atmosphere variety of forces you to make adecision either get a new job or go do some thing else and yeah I I went alittle severe though I quit my job moved halfway across the world you knowas good as I went I did not have whatever started up excellent yeah that is that is crazyyeah if I’ve always had some type of side hustle and certainly some type ofcreative facet hustle due to the fact that earlier than I acquired into YouTube and all of the stuffI’m doing now I was a musician for lots of years and we got to touraround the nation and i saw I was once normally doing a couple of matters so it feelsgood now after like so many years of making an attempt like i’m full-time like doingwhat I want to do as frightening as it may be some days it’s remarkable you already know and inthat inventive area – there may be so many industry elements to it that I believe alot of men and women do not get like figuring out pricing figure out marketsensitivity income funnel development like every these things are verytime-drinking yeah I realize it’s um and it can be been you know with me leaping shipa little bit prior you know the price range were slightly tight duringthat transition so the time is so vital and yeah it’s been toughfiguring out some of that stuff when you consider that I can not necessarily I i have toknow whatever is going to work at the least fairly if i’m gonna take you recognize weekout of my schedule to work on you recognize like withthat we are going to get into this extra later but my cat pictures industry i have youknow a merch line that I designed for my cats Instagram so like having me likededicate time or like YouTube videos things like that it is always so crucialyou be aware of you received to understand anything’s gonna work earlier than you already know you want inyour in your YouTube in your online persona yeah and i wish to speak aboutthat considering that that in the beginning I began following you on Instagram it’s a beardof fat loss and then you definitely watch the YouTube channel I came to visit to there andI was pronouncing earlier than I don’t know whilst you started to share precisely however when Istart to follow you had already lost like a ton of weight like a entire personyeah and you have been kind of recounting the experience and sharing your insights anda very measured and type of self experimental manner which is what Iappreciated about it yeah however you i suppose inside the last year made theshift from the channel went from bearded fat loss to josh van yeah yeah catalystbehind that you are aware of it’s it used to be form of a very long time coming when I first startedthe Instagram account I used to be you already know I was once right within the thick of watching youknow health youtubers and Instagram pages and stuff and that i used to be attempting tothink of some catchy name and titles like I’ve bought a beard you talkingabout fat loss and you already know that used to be the place it got here but then as stuff startedto take off more you recognize I variety of was once fitting increasingly disassociatedwith the name and simply wishing it used to be my possess identify but then it used to be it used to be scaryand I held off for a long time wanting to you recognize trade the channel identify andI knew things I didn’t want to lose out on you understand development or lose my followingand I had already grown to that point so I put it off and put it off and put itoff but over time you realize I started to shift more out of weight loss content orat least incorporating different varieties of content material and yeah it was correct aroundwhen I took that destroy and went full-time with everything I just style ofdecided in the future i am like i’m simply gonna chunk the bullet and do it yeah if thisworks the way i need it to you understand the little little bit of pushback I’mgonna get now in these early levels it’s going to be very insignificant long termso I higher simply do it now even as i can and definitely pleased I did given that yeahit used to be I used to do all weight loss content material and simply over time it is um youknow as my weight protection used to be getting simpler and simpler for me I waskind of dropping a few of that passion at the back of doing all of that content butthen also I suppose much more so it was I simply felt like i’m regularly runningout of suggestions like i’ve nothing left to coach you and so I was like you recognize Ifelt like I was just repeating myself and that i was once more and more like less andless in it just in view that I felt like I blanketed the whole thing I wanted to duvet andI had all these different pursuits I desired to explore and a number of the movies I haddone sort of outside of the genre had performed relatively well like my even whenit was still beard and fat loss as a channel you know out of my high fivevideos yeah I had a deep-dish pizza recipe they acquired like half a millionviews I had a you realize a few backpack and bag stories that that itwent up there so you know 60% of my high videos weren’t even regarding weightloss anyway so I mean I consider while you moved to Portland you started doingthe you started doing the meals cooking videos just like the recipe movies reallysomatically doing them good and that used to be kind of a departure from the originalcontent and then you also start to do the walk with me sequence I feel youcalled it yeah yeah we would type of talk about an issue and also you had been walkingto work and that i keep in mind you probably did the first couple of like tremendous cinematic hikingvideos yep going out into the woods and like the gentle focal point oh no and that i wouldpersonally be a little scared leaving my camera a few of those shots you have been far flung man oh yeah I are aware of it’s set my entire rig up and walk like a 1/2 akilometer out i do know that is why i haven’t achieved so much in the metropolis in a whilejust on account that particularly now that it’s my livelihood it’s like I had affordable gearthen and that i had their job then so it used to be like obviouslyI would had been devastated if it got stolen but now it can be just so much moreimportant to me i have not been wanting to do any of that city stuff like I usedto without needing any one with me at least in the woods you already know you don’thave people around which can be gonna stroll up and steal unless you’re on somepopular path I think but i’ll most of the time be on a speedy sidenote I’llprobably bring back more of these nature style of videos i have been super obsessedwith like camping and backpacking stuff the final couple of months last week so Idid i have filmed and then ended up I did not finish the video when you consider that I wasstarting to get hypothermia and simply type of ultimate what we’re speakme aboutJoshua no winter camping with out iciness tenting hair laughs but that used to be I’vebeen looking at there is a youtuber named Steve Wallace yeah he does like stealth camping andwinter camping i’ve been absolutely obsessive about this man he’s robust he’sjust this like tremendous sweet like style Canadian fellow yeah he’s sure I had been gazing abunch of his stuff and he is a gigantic suggest for like you recognize you don’tneed all this luxurious equipment to get in the market and and i would been wanting to gocamping considering the fact that I moved out to Portland have been in like camping mecca of thecountry and i been looking to maintain off unless I could have enough money you recognize reallynice backpacking apparatus and that i used to be like you already know what i’m simply gonna get some geargo in the market but yeah my like knockoff chinese language $30 dozing bag didn’t farewell in the you realize for celcius is probably like negative one Celsiusnegative to someplace round there and yeah it used to be miserable I amthey I and i knew it was once style of the early stages of hypothermia I used to gocamping up in the higher Peninsula in Michigan and we swam in Lake Superiorwhich used to be like probably the most brutally bloodless water you would probably imagineand I recall getting these emotions once we were doing that and thenstarted to consider that that night however yeah so I received some pictures and i’m trying tofigure out a way I would do like slightly desk storytime and intercut someof the footage i ended up having to delay that for just a few days and work onsomething else for subsequent week so i will be able to take some extra time to think about itbut something will have to be coming and if now not i am already planning and going backout I acquired a warmer snoozing bag plan on going again out subsequent week or maybe theweek after so quality yeah well it is nonetheless pretty bloodless i suppose out in Portland ohyeah it’s specially out in the woods you already know considering that i go out I havelimited options for marking jokes i have been car free but there is some publictransit options to get out to a few state parks and matters and for the duration of yeahthey’re out in like the coast variety of Oregon so it’s all mountains and stuffso even on this summer season you understand it’s pretty chilly in the course of the nights however yeahright now it is it’s about in Fahrenheit as a minimum it can be right round 50degrees throughout the day and correct 3035 for the period of for the duration of the night yeah broken nowcuz I you understand I grew up with Fahrenheit grew up with inches and toes and youknow I all my education is in like tech and engineering and then living in Asianow for like seven years i am like absolutely modified to Celsius andmetrics is so much less difficult it makes a lot extra sense like zero and a hundredyeah it can be simply it is good judgment yeah it drives me nutsI’m wholly broken i am like hello I do not know if i can return to you as Isee a signal that is like you understand handiest 20 miles an hour however yeah it’s yeah I don’teven comprehend for the tempura and any type of distance measurements to i don’t knowmetric is smart and it simply is like the epitome of america for like we’rethe simplest country that yeah it can be us and me Tamaroh fairly I suggestion it was simply us in Myanmar and that i think like Libya orsomething so like three powerhouses so let’s speak in regards to the industry thatyou started cuz you hinted at your cat pictures business and yeah you dointhat before you left your job however you’ve basically emerge as a freelancevideographer photographer for essentially the most section at the same time you’re nonetheless structuring thebusiness and figuring all of it out is that right Josh yeah yeah definitely and solike what did you do when the day you give up you recognize what used to be like step onelike okay I wouldn’t have a full-time job anymore what did you do very first thing youknow very first thing was once simply kind of like scrambling and making an attempt to determine howto get consumers and you understand simply doing quite a few research and things like that thething that rather helps for getting cuz it is so tough to get from thatzero to 1 when you’re starting off with freelancing helped to that I had toyoutube and mainly around the time I stop you understand there’s highs and lows toolike YouTube traffic and sales and stuff so as I was doing lovely good tohave like somewhat little bit of stable revenue from the YouTube channel but yeah I hadreally simply reached out and style of increased myself to my network make sureeveryone knew you recognize that I was doing this and my skill set and that i believe that’sa just right procedure quite a few humans believe you recognize speaking to your associates orfamily it’s like you are begging for money or some thing but I think the keyis like not always asking them to rent you for matters but as a couple ofexamples you know my spouse’s a hair stylist so she’ll you already know chat with herclients so what does your husband do and you already know then in order that’ll come up inconversation there I was once capable to land a couple of jobs with I heart Radio doingphotography for a few routine just by means of that so it was once my wifetalking about just her life and what her husband does for a living after which youknow I had a friend that labored for a neighborhood environmental nonprofit and theywere they do a big each year video with an award show and he had rememberedoh yeah my pal simply started doing this so let’s reach out to him so youknow having it’s sort of that uh that one further step outside of your networkif your whole community knows what you do you know it’ll come up in theirconversations and you already know so that used to be that used to be a great way for me to getjump-started with the whole thing I think it also helps to having the the YouTubechannel and you recognize not that i’ve a significant following but you recognize having alittle little bit of credibility from that just helps get you a bit bit moreconnected with plenty of humans but yeah yepnow I also you your network could not have been as robust as previous becauseyou had work you had just lately moved from Michigan to Portland yeah yeah that werebuilding that up again yeah that that’s also been rough I hadthought about that as good as like if I was still again in Michigan i do know allthese folks and being around with bands and matters and that i had various contextand you already know track enterprise back there but oh yeah so I used to be already form ofworking and constructing that up but fortunately you understand we now have between my spouse and Iwe’ve made some some beautiful just right acquaintances and contacts and things around here yeahlike I stated to the YouTube channel it’s a fairly high-quality technique to get related witha lot of persons yeah I don’t forget when you first moved out there you posted somevideos where you were going to like like what they name it minutiae night typestuff oh yeah educate around of the trolley around yeahwe stew and now we have just gotten like old and boring due to the fact then – yeah we we werewhen we have been first relocating out here you recognize seeking to meet persons and makefriends and stuff we had been yeah going to all sorts of random nights and yeahchecking all those types of event pages and stuff on-line going out to stuff andyeah rather high-quality solution to meet humans and and we certainly ended up assembly youknow we’re in a decently huge rental building downtown so we made quite a fewfriends that are living in our constructing or people that used to live right here which isnice you know having some pleasant people to go you know take hold of a fast drink orsomething with and after which as two neighbors from Malaysia that reside in thesame constructing and under no circumstances knew it Oh each for years and years and i interviewedit’s funny I’ve interviewed them each on my earlier radio exhibit in Malaysia andthen certainly one of them on my present ones but theythat they were in some startup accelerator they’re each entrepreneursand that’s how they met and so they realized that they lived in the samebuilding and so they both knew me yeah it’s um it can be crazy a small world and a few ofthose matters yeah yeah you recognize so that’s cool that you’ve got bought that yousort of like took the time to construct up community make acquaintances you understand get toknow persons out there cuz that can be hard when you move notably like whenyou’re like to your like late 20s 30s 40s and you progress somewhere and yeah youdon’t understand any person and you are just trying to like construct a network get to knowpeople find out you know what’s exciting you recognize um but you recognize bythe same token i’m variety of in that same form of historical man drop myself like Jim andI customarily we are living downstairs is our workspace in our studio and thenupstairs is our living area after which the whole lot that we wish for the mostpart is inside like a kilometer of where we reside so we walked to the night time marketfor dinner we possibly exit to love a unique restaurant i’m the i’m the mainroad for lunch you know we just work from residence all day ya recognize I yeah I getthat yeah I um being strolling andliving downtown and everything I barely depart my like few block radius yeah I Ihave to offer most of the credit to my wife for getting me away from bed cuzyeah i am i’m most commonly too beautiful quiet and introverted and do not like doing alot of social events however yeah my wife sort of gets me keeps me like a I alwaystreat I perpetually comic story that she helps me keep like a general like anormal character yeah you understand i’m also auto free I don’tdrive I can’t think riding in within the metropolis above all in Bangkok where thetraffic’s insane oh yeah yeah however we’re foot we’re each lucky that we livein in cities which have powerful public transportation yeah yeah men and women take itfor granted and indefinitely i noticed how fortunate i am butsimultaneously you understand it’s now not the norm right here I have no idea how it is inBangkok oh i’d assume with a higher metropolis it’s mostly a little bit morenormalized however even in Portland has the first-class transit i have been in any US cityat in my scope at least but it uh even out right here although not very manypeople you utilize the transit and that like I nonetheless take into account after I was stillout working you already know men and women nonetheless looked at me like I used to be bizarre and and so likeit’s it’s humorous that for amazed as amazing as it’s it’s now not thatnormalized but then also to if if that is a purpose that you might need to achievethat used to be a huge intent what you know why we desired to maneuver out right here to withso I suppose folks style of have this you know why me or bad me sort of mentalityfor like huh I wish or if I was in that crisis if someonereally wanted to you might obviously take the steps to do stuff like that youknow yeah it can be funny like I lived in Ohio in Cleveland earlier than I moved toThailand and Rhode Island before that both locations where you rather can not getaround and not using a automobile adore it’s it’s a necessity like and it’s an unfortunatenecessity after which in Bangkok i know so many individuals who pressure who simply take a seat intraffic yeah and you recognize for me i am like i can we’ve these little thingscalled music tells they would not ever be legal in the united states but they are little minipickup vehicles and songs condo two rows so there will be two rows of seats in theback and for just about like six ba which is like 20 cents i can take thatfrom the we name a avenue a soy from the soy that I continue to exist as much as where the Trainis is about a five-minute song tile ride for 20 cents then i will be able to leap on our skytrain which is gorgeous is undoubtedly wonderful and it runs via most of thecity and then we have a subway that goes through a different part of the city andthey intersect at multiple areas it can be simply one of these excellent procedure and ofcourse we have now buses the buses are a bit of loopy due to the fact that they do not reallystop and i have a video that’s truely done rather well on my channel calledBangkok bus eight and it is not the day we took it it wasn’t super crazy however itwas just a little sketchy satisfactory yeah there is some yeah there may be allsorts of random transit things out hereunfortunately nothing that affordable but kind of on a similar low cost spectrum likeeven after I was once going out tenting I determined this but it surely used to be called theColumbia County rider and it’s this it connects Portland out to the Pacificcoast it’s about 80 miles away so there may be a handful of bus traces and Irode this bus out from town I took like our predominant the TriMet is what they youknow our transit systems I took the teach available in the market and that i related withthis bus and it took me like 40 miles for 3 dollars considering it was once amazingand like i don’t feel any person rather realizes their makes use of that style ofstuff it’s that is amazing lots of choices the other the other crazy thingwe have our hair is scooter taxis and so that you may take right here we call themmotorcycle when it can be like um a man on a scooter and you bounce on the again and ittakes you the place you want to go and normally like i’m going to take it occasionallylike from my apartment to to the coach if i’m like relatively in a rush and becauseit’s it can be much turbo however the other day I was quite running late at a coffeemeeting with any one and that i used to be walking in the back of agenda so I ordered we have anapp referred to as seize it can be just like BRR and so I ordered a motorbike taxi on thatand we bounce in the back of and it used to be the most terrifying experience in my lifestyles becausewe had to go down this uh this fundamental road in Bangkok referred to as sukima it’s like youknow any principal road in like a significant metropolis proper it is simply lots of site visitors peopleswerving inside and outside and he was just throttling it with me on the again itsounds crazy yeah we we eventually obtained all of the electrical scooters and Steffan nowto unique from you recognize what you’ve got bought however yeah that is been a fun thingit’s just a little bit it can be so highly-priced though compared to just running ortaking the general transit nevertheless it’s a enjoyable like each as soon as in a at the same time form ofthing however I’ve carried out that once out right here andwas it was once loopy luxurious I could have I would have taken a boss for like atenth of the fee correct you understand certainly he could stroll totally free I thinkI was going like 2 kilometers and it fee me if I take into account used to be like a hundredand seventy baht which is like three ish bucks so no longer a ton of money butcompared to it was more commonly it least double the rate of any other expensivetransportation model it was enjoyable frightening from time to time however enjoyable you know they usually theydon’t have pneumatic wheels out here I have no idea if yours have pneumaticwheels these had solid wheels so how in poor health every like it um it is determined by the brainsome of them do a few of them do not but yeah it is a night and day change foryeah for the difficult wheels yeah yeah yeah so but yeah the opposite factor if I everreally need a vehicle and i’m certain it’s the equal for you i will be able to employ one for like aday or two exactly we’ve an organization you already know there’s there may be all of the appslike Toro and get around and that i do not have plenty of experience with them butyeah we have now an corporation that’s you already know inside a mile of us and i suppose youknow on the off season like correct now we are able to rent a car for 15 bucks for the dayyou recognize so we will do that each couple of months to move to the coast or if Ihave a job that is further out I most of the time come to be renting a vehicle for workyou understand one Thor so yeah so why do you need precisely why do you must own acar when there is all these different choices and i know and i always feel about thattoo like even though cash used to be undoubtedly no limitation like i might reactor just go renta vehicle as soon as every week if I rather wanted to you realize this dress yeah further callI mean although he said if cash’s now not an dilemma however the further costthat renovation coverage all these things for something that you just use atmost as soon as every week yeah and then it particularly is so demanding i do know that you could relate tothis but i’m certain any person that drives customarily doesn’t is not going to reallyunderstand it it can be so disturbing riding while you understand while you kind of step awayfrom it and return to it’s like jeez this can be a lot of yeah i like being ableto quietly you already know sit on the bus or take a seat up in the educate and get stuff doneor walk and yeah it’s stress driving by way of all that visitors so yeahI I relatively love now not having to maintain that as so much as feasible you realize it’snice now in Bangkok they began to put in force seat free trains pleasant Oh likecertain cars could have like no seats or best half the seats mm-hmm so that they havelike spots you can stand after which form of lean up against the wall if it can be nottoo full and is it’s rather more cozy for me or as a minimum like Iyou be aware of to love stand the whole time as adversarial to sit considering the fact that I sit so muchduring the day no I do the identical yeah yeah yeah a few of our trains willhave you comprehend it’s yeah i would say it is typically about 1/2 and halfmore seats than now not however you already know proper through the doors you’ve got significant open areas Iusually like to face too considering he has sitting all day working I don’t want tosit on the instruct i will be able to stand for like 5 minutes 10 minutes you recognize now I wantto I need to get back to your corporation though so yeah you networked your wayinto like your first couple jobs and are you seeing constant progress it can be um youknow to be sincere the last few months had been far more centered in YouTubestuff and that’s like I used to be pronouncing with having to sort of rather review mytime so it it just is dependent upon the month or the time you already know i’ll i’ll gothrough these bouts or i’m relatively keen on you recognize the cat photographybusiness or the freelance video trade or YouTube and so it is variety of a pollbetween but yeah progress has been beautiful regular I i have not put as a lot attentioninto growing the freelancing as a lot as I most likely will have to but yeah it’s um it’sworked out lovely good and and the business is funny enough cuzlike i’m going to be specializing in one more thing but they have been slowly commencing tomerge you understand final 12 months I had a handful of video jobs that I acquired from thecafeteria trade I labored with a couple of animal shelters and type ofcreating like promotional documentaries for them and stuff so it’s been themthey’ve been nearly form of merging so it is yeah it is kind of snowballabsolutely it is i have not been my images yeah okay i’m certain peopleare one now what is what’s a cap photographybusiness and the way did you provide you with this suggestion yeah so it is it all startedoff I you know having the YouTube channel I got my cat Wolfie and towardsthe end of 2017 he is an adorable little British Shorthair grey cat super adorable abunch of persons were bugging me like you need to begin an Instagram forum and andI was already taken a thousand million photographs of them anyway only for fun and a catphotography video on your YouTube channel yeah yeah is cat photography 1015 hints to take higher graphics that your cat some thing like that however however yeah soa bunch of persons have been egging me on the begin an Instagram account discussion board and Idid and that i was once simply blown away how quick it was once developing you recognize his with prettyminimal effort his account went from zero to 30,000 in a yr and insideI had began and individuals are really liking the photographs and as I style of dovemore into the like pet Instagram house not very many individuals take pleasant photoseither even the bigger channels and so I was once realizing like my snap shots are reallybetter than numerous different men and women’s and and then i might give up the joband a part of we helped my protection I used to be like I should try and determine someother income streams and and seeing that the portraits were so well obtained I was once likeyou be aware of I would probably replicate this and take photographs of other men and women’sanimals and you know there may be Portland i don’t imply to giggle oh no I recognize howsilly it’s surely no no rough feelings but yeah so the the photographs weretaken good and i notion you understand I could mostly do that for different peopleand Portland is sincerely a big animal town and there are rather just a few petphotographers but no one every body focuses on dogs just about fully andnot very many humans focal point on cats and and that was invariably a bigin the research I’ve carried out that is more often than not the case for any kind offreelancing but for for pictures kind of finding where you canspecialize your self and you already know considering that there was a bunch of pet photographersno one was quite doing cats I was once like i will be able to take higher pix of cats thanmost folks I’ve observed on the internet so I was like i’m gonna set this up andkind of promote it as like a you realize greater-end maybe not like a luxuryservice however without doubt like a reputable excessive-end photographerbecause the style of men and women which are gonna spend any seen amount ofmoney on photos for their pet you know they’re gonna need to bus like I hired acat photographer so you recognize I particularly desired to market myself as aprofessional and and the pics you understand the first-class was there to check so I Ijust started getting into it and set up the website and installed a second catInstagram account only for all the the client portraits and yeah so all of it startedfrom from getting my cats Instagram and and a massive thing that helped take thatoff and sort of construct up my portfolio to produce other cats and and get moreexperience with it I started volunteering with some foster like catfostering corporations that is been tremendous enjoyable and lucrative to variety of as a side noteit’s a great solution to sort of get my foot into the business a little bit and get someexperience but yeah super fun serving to out and like taking images of thesefoster cats and just like the pix main to them getting houses and all that it’svery cute it can be a it is like a satisfactory yeah it is a quality respite from like thevideo work I like it and i am very keen about it nevertheless it’s it can be verymentally hard this is something like nice and easy about going andtaking portraits of those adorable cats and yeah yeah but so let me ask you thenwhat is the what’s the kit seem like for a legitimate cat photographer becauseI comprehend we pointed out like before you you could have like cheaper equipment and now thatyou form of went in like so inform me tell us tell the viewers what it is youinvested in whilst you first got started at this and then what’s your videoversus your photography package and principally i am just particularly curious toknow what the cap photography package is without doubt sir and uh like certainthings that you’ve got that you just wouldn’t ought to shoot humans for instance yeahyeah so um that’ll play on doing a whole separate video for the the catphotography bag at some point however uh one other thing to mention on the traces ofgear that gave me a bit of a competitive area with the kaepa dog Rafi was once anotherthing men and women do not I already had all of my expensive camera gear from thevideo industry and YouTube so I had a colossal edge of like having overly quality gearfor what the job is however uh yeah the camera is beautiful equivalent in in terms ofthe lenses and stuff i use yeah i have a Sony a7 three that’s what you’re seeingon here proper at times my my principal cat images lens up unless veryrecently I simply picked up a new lens that i have been quite liking but it’sthe zeiss batis 85mm meter it is only a portrait lens relatively quality for peopletoo however yes i have form of the traditional my my digital camera my lenses however then alongside withmy sort of standard camera gear which is beautiful typical what i’d bringfor individuals snapshot shoots or animal image shoots i’ve like a separate discipline Ibring catnip spray oh yeah it can be like just like a bit spray bottle somecats love it some cats do not however uh yeah I constantly lift that with me I carrytreats like I get these little deal with samples from my pet store and i will bringthose with me and and then i have like a little bit mouse wand toy that I you knowI’m enjoying with them and then I yeah so i’m always settling on up like random littletoys and stuff i will percent in there yeah so toys treats catnip stuff I recentlypicked up catnip bubbles yeah yeah I had the proposal of like how how cool would itbe to have you know that variety of shallow depth of field with a bunch of bubblesin the foreground and heritage and stuff up to now there’s most effective been a coupleof cats which have rather preferred them however the pictures turnedcool after they had been into it however yeah but yeah I imply that’s about it you got tokeep in comparison with you recognize i don’t do any studio variety of pictures you realize Iuse lights and stuff for video but most of my photography gigs have beenmore like event pictures or outside portraits so I often don’t but yeahyou must hold the gear down for the cats when you consider that when you have like massive lightsand all this obnoxious apparatus you understand they just not into it or they getscared so basically i’m just like playing with them and like sneakingphotos in my other hand so i will have like a toy in a single hand foot my digicam inthe other yeah yeah yeah that is like you received to make use of usual gentle no flash no nolighting gear or anything go stay virtually the window yeah I shoot on Fujiactually have a Fuji XH one you love these colors and love it’s a used toshoot Canon and i bought so frustrated with Canada and once they did I wasn’t happywith the once they did the mirrorless switchover and like the characteristic theybrought more and more about what they didn’t bring yeah should have and andthen the entire new lens mile and you realize some issues with the adapter I wasjust really frustrated and my cannons had been all type of end-of-lifestyles anyway yeahI was once like yeah you already know if i am gonna change that is the time correct like I’vegot some caring glass but and Gipp still prefers to shoot on her Canon so all ofour L lens that she uses well I used to be like let me see what i like and at the timethe XH one was on sale with like a battery grip and extra batteries and allthis stuff I made a swap and after I had shot my neighbors xt3 in Malaysia andI’ve on no account been happier with a camera I mean it can be so and like i do not suppose likethe pressure to upgrade considering that Fugees like their line is smaller they’re youknow they’re they are high-quality cycles are slower and anything in regards to the camerajust feels a bit of bit more sustainable i am that I’ve certainly not absolutely shot withFuji however some thing I’ve ever obvious like all of the Fuji colours are so effective yeahthat’s the one downside you realize the Sony cameras have a really bad rap forthe colors and i’m realizing too this is all like additional flat what you are seeingright now given that with the picture profile for the flow however but yeah Sonycameras in recent years have gotten manner better with their color science like thea 7-3 versus like a 7s2 or i have my B cam because the a 6400 the colors are reallyamazing the autofocus is extremely good which is fairly important for YouTubestuff numerous occasions not being capable to be behind the digicam after which additionally youhave for the cat photography notably if it is super autofocus intensive soyeah i have been i have been beautiful completely satisfied with that if if I had you already know unlimitedcash to get dedicated apparatus for the cat images down the street Ireally want to get some thing somewhat bit higher megapixel than this in view that Ihad this customarily for video and it can be potent for video but I i have my eye onlike they’ve the a seminar for is 60 megapixels cuz I quite need to get intoin addition to like the patron work for the cat photographer I wish to startselling on-line like nearly like pleasant art prints I image like macro detail shotsof cat matters and stuff to be capable to sell I feel like people can be youknow very exact cat man or woman could be into that style of stuff but yeah exactlyit’s it is crazy though it can be a whole different universe when once I first starteddiving in yeah it is um additionally it is – just probably the most like exceptional in optimistic place onthe internet that i have been like going in all these things with with any of thepet associated social media stuff in all places everyone’s simply quality everylike it yeah it’s adorable i’m believe the burden loss space was once now not as sort now oryeah or some thing most everything i’m doing on youyou understand it is not just about as kind yeah weight loss deaf people have ahair-set off round like minimalism variety of things on YouTube you understand Tech hasits fair share of you realize YouTube Tech has its reasonable share of men and women like I getsome get some crazy stuff at all times like you already know men and women don’t find it irresistible theydon’t find it irresistible some persons fairly hate the stuff I do so it’s like yeahwhatever yeah I imply yeah you gotta simply do yourbest to push that stuff out goodsoon yeah yeah I took practically twoyears off and i was once working on another tasks like fairly like takingup quite a lot of my time and i just had the vigor for for YouTube after I got here backI was once like oh let’s see how it goes and that i posted up so I was once like what the fuckI concept you died who died geez folks yeah persons are crazythat form of stuff makes me nuts mostly however it’s most likely with myvideos in the event that they stay if if they don’t participate in like tremendous you recognize if theydon’t get pushed out into the world like in the event that they in my community it can be usuallyreally excellent and for essentially the most part yeah I get a ways more quality than not great commentsbut yeah any of the videos that rather like take off and get pushed out intothe general public folks are just insane like like I did a minimalist techbag video form of displaying the stuff I raise round daily and you realize Ihave 5 things in there that you may you could have a computing device in there andnothing else some men and women would say oh that is too much tech or you already know you canhave like a notebook and a pen and bitch that you’ve too toomany things it can be now not about much less stuff it’s aboutonly the stuff that has worth exactly that is an end and it can be humorous it is allthese like bandwagon folks that that saw the Netflix documentary that cameout a number of years it can be which you comprehend it’s a pleasant documentary but yeah all thesepeople are like you recognize minimalism gurus that I need to please everyoneand it makes it make tough for folks you recognize I I invariably Isee minimalism as a tool to make use of yeah like specializing in things that deliver valueto your existence and eliminating the matters that do not and it’s it can be apractice and a tool it is now not you might be or don’t seem to be it is a device that you simply make use of inyour daily so there is no you realize it’s yeah that stuff frustrates me Idon’t want her i do not use and anybody else might some way however on the equal timelike we’ve got a design studio downstairs full of stuff yeahin the building we reside in we have a whole storage room up on the secondfloor only for jibs like stock it is like a room stuffed with simply stuff antiminimalist thing ever it’s good organized but it surely’s difficult sure sometimesyou just want that stuff like i am you realize i have a ton of digital camera i know Idon’t have a ton in comparison with a lot of folks but you realize for me i have a lotof camera apparatus and in my eyes and however you know i take advantage of each final little bit of itlike I used to be shooting a video for youtube yesterday and i had actually like everysingle piece of the whole lot I owned was once established for this one shoots such as you knowyou should make it like a video of like your minimalist digicam setup and justlike one low priced like zoom lens that is like 16 – like 390 and no gentle and justyou recognize like that that is my minimalist and someway you might simply use yourphone yeah i do know that is a yeah there is there is no profitable with thosecomplainers available in the market it is um it was fairly big there is a jap guy who’sreally huge in wellknown and uh in Thailand as a minimum for YouTube although hisvideos are in jap however he simplest does he is like super minimalist he lives inlike a room with like a notepad and a desk and yeah I mean perhaps it can be now not thatextreme possibly here’s like a spoon in a bowl however you comprehend it’s you understand what Imean it can be like super nothingness yeah and i imply that is cool if you could dothat and he’s definitely making a dwelling from doing it he’s like filming himselfand giving it by way of so this and when you’ve got that few things however you are creatingall this content round it yeah throws up some pink flags for meyeah and i I invariably have a tough time to with with that sort of stuff I consider likethere’s a degree of like cheapening minimalism the more content I makearound it so i might attempt to be you understand gentle-surpassed with what i’m doing aroundthat due to the fact yeah I think love it type of takes away one of the the positiveattributes with with doing a ton of stuff around it and yeah and yeah I amI’m nowhere near that extreme with things I i do not even like tonecessarily name myself a minimalism like or a minimalist like I mentioned it’s Ijust variety of see it as a tool in my lifestyles that I like to lean on for things I seeit the equal approach like i have been at facets in my lifestyles we’re like I had like veryfew matters I used to be telling anybody the other day i’m LinkedIn when I used to be singleand I was residing by myself I had actually a metallic cup a steel plate aspoon and a fork and no longer in view that I used to be looking to be like several ultra coolminimalist however I just didn’t wish to wash a bunch of stuff you realize we hadthis I consider I had a rice cooker because that’s what I cooked everything and soif it was like if i couldn’t mix everything into one pot and prepare dinner it inthe rice cooker and in like one of those low-priced rice cookers the place you just likepress the button down and stay up for it yeah you realize then you recognize that’s justall I wanted to handle though and different matters to focus on in my lifestyles yeahit’s exceptional and that’s without doubt how I variety of believe about a lot of stuff withas so much as i like the matters that I own and use them however you recognize everythingthat in in my eyes at the least the whole thing that you just own or have is a responsibilityin a sense and yeah and that is just like you wouldn’t trying to handle ityeah I just try and do away with that excess due to the fact that i do not wish to deal withany of it yeah so that you understand it’s funny numerous residences or residences in Thailanddon’t have kitchens you understand a colossal a part of that is that it’sso much simpler to devour out here and it is truly so much cheaper yeah yeah Ihave heard of that so sometimes from you and different humans traveling and stuffI i like consuming out it is just too highly-priced I like it too much for the eatup and cooking I do love cooking although it is it is identical to when i’ve the timeand wish to prepare dinner is once I fairly revel in it but yeah most commonly it can be I cookmore for operate i assume they’re like practicality than enjoyment for most nowit’s just like the stuff I consume at dwelling is like some Marmite and crackers or like Ihave frozen spinach with like i’m going to make that with pasta after which i will packagethat for a few days and i’d be like if i do not need to exit for lunchbecause I know it’s gonna be loopy sunny yeah this sounds stupid however the solar hereis particularly powerful and so once I get that you just understand it’s already a hundreddegrees fahrenheit for the duration of the day after which the sun just beating on you and ifI have to stroll like a kilometer to get lunch i’m going to just prep lunch for like fourdays and devour that yeah that’s horrible yeah we consistently shaggy dog story about this and emailyeah now we have like reverse issues with that it is like yeah the rain might be outso i’m like i am just not going outside at present but but i have been like furthersouth in the us and in Mexico and stuff there’s without doubt a difference and likebeing in the direction of the equator with the solar yeah it’s it’s crazylike the other day Jeb and i went out for lunch and we’re simply literally itwas like 500 meters down the avenue to this somtum save mostly like a greenpapaya salad that i am hooked on and that i wore my Teva sandals like the ones thathave like the the strap gyms like I used to be relatively sunny certain you want to wear thoselike we’re simply going for walks down the road and actually by the time I acquired back mytoes had been establishing to burn yeah I’ve mentioned that that sandalstan line or burn line I will have to say before yeah I knowI burned so effortlessly there there’s one time I received sun poisoning from beingoutside for an hour I used to be I used to be house-sitting for so yeah it used to be crazyI’d not ever Furion ‘zed some thing like that before orsince I was I used to be apartment-sitting for a friend that lived on a lakeshe had a paddle boats I went out on this paddle boat simply in shorts and Ididn’t placed on sunblock due to the fact that I was an fool yeah it used to be back in Michigan yeahI was once out for like forty five minutes or an hour and if I had just like the flu essentiallyand I that yeah it was crazy I my poor Polish epidermis can not manage allthat sunshine yeah my french-canadian genetics doesn’t do good with it eitherand yeah I are living in you recognize the tropics in Asia yeah that’s crazy however you knowit’s funny on the grounds that folks continually supply me a hard time like once they do not peoplewho don’t are living here will give me a difficult time when they may see like I put on pantsevery day and we’re an extended-sleeve shirt everyday and that i wear I put on a capeverywhere cuz i’m I’ve acquired this a massive sun panel on my head now that myhairline is receding and so everyone’s like don’t seem to be you so hot scorching wearing allthat garments but the reality isn’t any like i am defending myself from the solar andyou ought to realize that in Bangkok at the least everything is air-conditionedto the extreme oh quite the whole lot is like like freezing likeyou you see like Thai people running round like sweaters and you already know likefeeling looking cold and when you consider that it can be bloodless within yeah that’s excellent at leastyeah yeah oftentimes with unique locations like Portland is this sort of cusp variety ofplace with the climate the place it is no longer super sizzling very traditionally right here so there is alot of like older buildings and stuff that do not have a ton ofair-conditioning yeah it’s I can not even suppose i’m I’mso delicate with my temperatures i like my AC in the summer you know it’s funny isthat I when I lived in Rhode Island like i would run the aircon loads however therewas often a tremendous component to like spring into summer time and fall that youknow I just no aircon no warmness i would just like benefit from the the weather Ohio toofor the most section I mean summer season is variety of week there it is it is no longer as bloodless aslike say we have been you lived in Michigan however I used to be beautiful cold especiallyCleveland but you know here in Thailand like wemight get like three or four days a year that i don’t must run the airconditioner and also you are aware of it’s brutal like sometimes like i’m going to try to reallyjust stretch it like i’m going to push myself like like i’m going to see if i will be able to get tillnoon about aircon after which nevertheless it’s like oh I get to like 10:00 a.M.And that i’msweating like in my at my desk it’s difficult there’s um with with all my recentcamping and backpacking obsessions i have been studying a bunch about differentfabrics and stuff or for apparel to take out and yeah i know with thelong-sleeve stuff if in case you have the proper materials if it’s long-sleeve you knowit’s no longer gonna be any hotter after which yeah you get all of the solar security tooyeah now with the wintry weather – I mean like a silk base layer makes a satisfactory insulatingbase layer for bloodless climate you know some thing like a Mariano wool which willactually wick moisture away preserve you dry and warm yeah like there may be a variety of coldweather considering the fact that you are going out once more in a number of weeks there may be quite a bit ofthings you can do layer sensible I was lucky ample I had aoutlier I have no idea if the apparel corporation there they may be headquartered on New Yorkthey’re like fairly small run like small unlock runs of matters however they havelike this tremendous cult following on-line they reached out and asked if I wanted to tryanything to check for the channel they sent they are sending out some reallyreally fantastic pants which can be yeah just like the they are going to be the perfect pants to takeout seeing that the other or not they’re type of like denim however they may be notcotton they they boast them is the perfect journey pant like the last yeahwhat it can be now not form no no they may be I forgot what the blend isbut it’s some like I don’t know I can’t even don’t forget now but yeah some variety oflike what’s that yeah i am drawing a blank however are you aware of a manufacturer calledNaked and famous denim manufacturer I’ve heard of them by no means tried it however yeah I’veheard of the frame um they have a gene made from cashmerehmm it’s like a cashmere denim and that i suppose like a thousand greenbacks like morethan a thousand greenbacks for the reason that cashmere is just not affordable that’s crazyyeah yeah it’s like a cashmere salvaged denim jean they usually appear like crazy warmthat’s the same thing like probably the most merino wool stuff can get so expensivebut pricey specially Asia like the import tax cuz jibs mean business isknitting knitting and crochet yeah Camero Mariano wool and like several theseother like cashmere stuff can also be insane with the import obligations jeez yeah it’scrazy fun stuff so whats up again to again to ya comprehend the place do you the place you see it goingwhat’s your intention for your corporation yeah so long termyeah i am fairly hoping to have YouTube be my like regular supply of income maybenot regular but form of like my most important job and source of earnings to return fromYouTube after which beyond that i’ve we have now mentioned this earlier than andthe e mail had plenty of aspirations for the the cat images industry is kindof launching that as extra of like a web-based way of life manufacturer outside of justclient work you already know having like web publication posts and finally i would wish to begin asecond YouTube channel talk about you already know cat guidelines and things like that andyeah simply form of flesh that out with weblog and a retailer and YouTube channel andso i have that sort of long term for the cat business and then yeah YouTube Ijust fairly hoped maintains developing and kind of offers me the freedom for that to bemy most important income to work on different higher initiatives and the the freelance businessfor for video yeah long term I quite hope to get into style of biggerproduction work or no longer even always higher creation work but just biggerprojects i’ve aspirations so working for other humans extra perin all initiatives I undoubtedly wouldn’t be antagonistic to working with different men and women butI have some aspirations for a number of sort of longer layout documentaries andthings i am simply particularly now not able to devote the time or assets to rightnow so ultimately i’m hoping yeah for YouTube to proceed to grow and continueto develop the sales along with the the cat industry and then being capable tokind of rather dial back the freelance business to just a handful of projects ayear that i am particularly keen about whether or not it’s companies I need to workwith or private tasks I want to have you learnt documentaries and stuff yeahyeah cool yeah so if you have a plan to get there you understand engaged on it rightnow with YouTube that’s a like I said I’ve simply been super centered in onYouTube stuff the last couple of months or a few months yeah and simply reallyworking on hanging out the exceptional content material viable for as long as a few years agoyou recognize i am quite new to cameras and all of that stuff I i’ve abackground in graphic design so I have an understanding of a lot of things that overlapyou know with and have various expertise long-time period you realize the colortheory and composition and editing and that form of factor however you know I’mrelatively new on the spectrum of photographer videographer so for a longtime I was once in order that eager about studying the way to do everything now I suppose like Ihave a powerful clutch on the creation so I’ve just been focusing much more onyou be aware of offering higher content material whether it’s you already know me being a betterhost and you understand doing a better job of like writing and planning and being abit more succinct succinct in in videos and yeah so just form of engaged on mebeing a greater presenter on YouTube and and simply putting out the great possiblecontent most wonderful or informative or anything the the video would call forso engaged on growing that additional just throughhard work and better movies with the all the the cat industry youknow i am being concerned with that I’ve regularly kind of on autopilot for thetime being but yeah expectantly this 12 months i’m gonna get began on form of more ofthose on-line elements that I want to grow and every other freelance industry yeahjust carrying on with to take the entire clients i will be able to get almost at this being soearly on and you know growing the first yr on my possess and financially has beena a bit of a stressful one so i’m nonetheless yeah taken the whole lot I canget just about just determining where to high-quality divide up my time and yeah I’mkind of like in the equal boat the place it’s like um I feel we talked like i’m sortof like watching at like a three-12 months transition plan unless some thing is nextin my existence yeah and like we talked to have the haberdashery business the place Imake like form of like quite often luggage like quite minimalist totes or more townlike us and denim briefcase designs now however you know i am still like working inthe tech space are still pushing offers establishing stuff and you already know that’swhat i am seeking to variety of segment away from and then i have been I took some timeoff from YouTube again like the final like three weeks i’m kind of banking alot of content material and editing and just looking to come again in like full forceand having a decent amount of contact come out typically and also you knowplus all the podcasts that I produce now or like some of them are starting to dofairly well getting traction so it’s all right yeah and i you understand withespecially with YouTube stuff and that’s yeah i’ve been looking to hooked up slightly ofa backlog so i can free up my time considering that I feel like last yr withgetting began off with everything and having clients and YouTubesimultaneously I was continuously like last minute and that i suppose like i do not operatethat well creatively when it can be like alright at present is my day to do somethingI’m now not certain what i am gonna do yet but it surely’s got to be finished via the next day to come yeah soit’s yeah i have been quite working on building up slightly of a you realize somelead time on YouTube and so i will simply form of free up to taketime to place out more and then liberate time from the other organizations yeah andand yeah the the irritating section it can be it’s just a topic of you realize forYouTube in my experience subject of like placing in the work and time yeah andthat good pleasant content constant content material and time you realize thegrowth has been constant although final year you realize with transitioning out ofexclusively weight reduction and rebranding the channel you comprehend it’s I suppose itviews for final yr or up like 25-30 percentage or some thing so it is like it’syou comprehend it’s now not that you simply you understand it’s now not that viral jump that you you form ofhope for and spot for these handful of humans out there in in the house however youknow growth is constant and so it is you already know I believe optimistic with seeing thenumbers you understand if I simply keep going it can be just gonna hold going up and up andyeah once I lately relaunched I type of noticed like I did not believe it was gonnado so good and my first couple of videos fell flatand then like whatever starts like select up more as i am going k i am getting acertain see slightly bit more traction they mentioned two years off I used to be surprisedanyone was nonetheless following me but yeah yeah that is crazyyeah is panic even like I’ve taken a couple of weeks off two occasions in the you knowthree and a half years i’ve been on YouTube and yeah I consistently get a littlepanicky with that like individuals are they nonetheless gonna be there in a month you knowfor me it is something I experience doing and i started doing on the grounds that I wish to sharestuff and it’s humorous like one of the most you speak about your most trendy videosone of my most popular movies is like a things about Bangkok video and Idefinitely do not want to make journey content but like all people watches thatvideo I consider dangerous for like anyone who watches that then subscribe to mychannel understand that occurs to me always with my long-established weight loss storyvideo it is a horrible video is literally thesecond video I had ever made not only for YouTube but simply ever andit used to be awful and in that video still puts down so many views and yeah Iknow it’s it can be just so distinctive from the whole lot i am doing now and yeah I’llget subscribers and i will detect mostly when that video picks up I’llnotice a leap in unsubscribes after I put up if if that movies getting moreviews on the time however yeah I mean it can be it can be still still going and churning outI consider it’s at like one million and a half of views or some thing correct now it’take a seat’s loopy how lengthy you realize that it can be simply been running yeah that is exceptional yeahsee it is it’s tough although like i’m surely i’m joyful that it did well butthe video is awful like after find it irresistible’s um and and i like I nonetheless suppose theyou know my story and the whole thing adore it’s now not terrible within the experience of what Iwas looking to painting but yeah I simply did not recognize how one can use a digicam orhow to talk to the camera you are aware of it’s it can be identical to you already know each person talksabout you already know simply type of suck it up your first few movies are gonna suckjust put up them anyway and you’ll get higher and and thateverything can be great it is it’s like being continuously reminded of such as you’reembarrassing early working so i’m going to still you already know be answering comments from thatvideo as an alternative have you concept about are redoing it I i’ve specifically to likeyou had said with now not one to make travel videos with the algorithm you already know ifyou have one triumphant video doing videos involving that one normally kindof will get a aggressive expertise I’ve proposal about doing a little variety of likerevisited however yeah that one’s simply it can be in my my record of video idea notes andit’ll sit down there until i will be able to figure out a way to do it how so much did you lose intotal Josh a hundred forty five kilos i’m proper about one hundred seventy to nonetheless weigh myself each morningit’s simply a part of my events now however however yeah i’ve been keeping it for almostfive years now it can be crazy they even say that you simply realize it used to be 2015 that’s prettymuch when I misplaced the the majority of the whole lot and s round in 2020now it can be um it is humorous after being so a long time youknow i don’t believe about it much anymore and in many instances like i’ll seem back onthat ancient stuff and it doesn’t even necessarily consider like me however yeah it’sthat it can be been excellent though yeah I’ve uh i’m a massive dude i’m like 280 and evenwhen I get lean i’ll be like 260 yeah cuz you are pretty tall too correct I knowno yeah well yeah i assume that’s no longer super tall however and you also simply havelike huge like stockier build that’s no longer like me Frank dude i was aprofessional fighter a heavyweight and that i fight at 265 and so I’ve ran a marathonlike six years ago half marathon six years in the past I get down to like 230pounds to run this half marathon and various men and women notion i like seem sickat 2:30 oh yeah that’s rough especially it can be hard for for you to get used tothat type of factor after which yeah really hard for humans around you like my momis still satisfied like I misplaced too much weightall these years later she hasn’t introduced it up in a little whilst however yeah thatwas a yeah it can be rough for humans to adjust to that variety of factor round youbut yeah I might assume along with your frame yeah your top you realize getting downthat low it was once most commonly you realize jib was once a nutritionist at a medical institution shedidn’t has a grasp’s in vitamin and he or she’s always like after we first startedto date i’d devour the identical thing that is once I was like still like preppingfor the 1/2 marathon a the identical thing like everyday and i will be able to style of get ina rut like that and it doesn’t hassle me like I are not looking for form in my eating regimen Ican consume the same factor for breakfast daily lunch and dinner yeah there Iwas consuming the identical designated thing they just like the identical fruit for breakfast day-to-day and i’d have some Tom which is that inexperienced papaya salad for lunch inthere and she or he sent me a spreadsheet with my weekly diet and he or she’s likeyou’re missing the whole thing in purple you’re missing and regularly the wholespreadsheet was red great yeah I consistently have to watch that variety ofstuff too on account that I get super repetitive with my ingredients yeah yeah but you knowit’s I imply it it worked out to the factor where it can be like she’s like oh youneed to change what you consume I was like good let me finish this marathon andthis 1/2 marathon we will talk about it and that i will have to have listened to herbeforehand due to the fact she used to be worried about my carb intake before the marathon Ididn’t have ample I hit a wall just like the halfway point yeah notably for any ofthat you recognize i am not a runner in any respect however i know simply know any kind of likehigh performance primarily endurance sporting events like that every one that stuff gets sovital there was um I can’t particularly excellent at it I just did it I wasn’t like a goodrunner I mean if you did it that’s higher than better than me for certain andbetter than most i might imagine yeah I I continuously notion when I was heavy Ithought I hated jogging considering I used to be heavier I misplaced the burden and i stillearning just sucks yeah I are aware of it’s it is horrible like I used to comic story I haven’tdone as a lot these days but I obtained rather into cycling a couple of years again and like II used to be joke i would as an alternative cycle like 100 miles then like run a 5k milecycle a century it can be now not convenient yeah that um probably the most I’ve ever did was 30 yeah Iused to my normal rides had been like 15 to twenty miles after which i might do like a 30 35mile each so yeah every month yeah yeah i am to be honest the foremost factor I I hadto abandon the hobby as a rule once I started YouTube various like playingvideo video games biking various this random stuff just I lost the time for it good i have not long gone out so much latelybecause our air exceptional has been so dangerous so now that the air first-rate is startingto get higher i will exit extra and do it unicycle sounds horrifying yeah it can be youknow the primary couple times are relatively scary particularly scarysee I’ve got I nonetheless raise i am fairly into this entire grease the groovetheology now what’s that so grease the groove we’re like instead of like myonly centred workout for the duration of the day is like my cardio exercise everythingelse is like low reps many commonly so i’m going to do curls since daily is armeda push-up squats of kettlebell swings and i will simply do like 5 to 10 reps at atime all in the course of the day and so i’m by no means like going to failure and neverworking you already know to to that factor i’m simply doing it you recognize when i will when Ihave time I rise up and that i stroll to the kitchen I throw ten kettlebell swings Ican push up so I seize the curl bar and i’ll bang out like 1012 reps and that’smy my exercise all day long is what I do and also you comprehend it’s humorous due to the fact that I stillfeel robust I consider like i am getting strongeryou know if i am at my desk sitting and i have a minute at the same time whatever encodesI’ll decide on up one among my grippers and i’ve learned ten reps in every hand um butI’m not seeking to get bigger yeah it can be like i don’t need to be colossal i am 41 nowso I have to comprehend that my physique’s not gonna be ready to preserve my massforever yeah right so I gotta determine a approach to get keep robust and keep doingthe workouts i admire but get smaller yeah I mean what you are doing and i am no longer anexpert in this subject however only for my own individual like study and experiencewith all what you are doing is without doubt plenty there’s some information available in the market withthe muscle deterioration over time the sarcopenia however yeah even any like basicroutines like that is more than adequate to prevent that muscle loss for the mostpart or at the least get you you realize eighty percentage of the best way there which is allthat matters for many the whole thing but um yeah these common exercises are definitelymore than adequate to kind of combat numerous that muscle loss it is when peopledon’t anything or reps I do far more reps in the course of the day now so I mightdo in someday like 500 reps of one pastime yeah I’ve quite dialed again tomy workouts considering that I once I was once rightafter I was losing weight I bought really into bodybuilding after which yeah additional time as I bought busier with all these items it just type of again compelled by using thewayside a bit but these days I cancelled my gymnasium membership a pair years in the past nowand and that i simply do super common like physique weight and resistance band workouts athome you already know I hold it super simple like i am particularly most effective doing you know15-20 minutes and a day but i will still as a rule get that 5 or 6 days a weekI need to i have some specifically loopy week where i’m having to go out earlyfor jobs however yeah just that super basic work I’ve I you know i am not at mycomplete greatest however i have been in a position to hold and maintain most of my muscle massand certainly you already know the burden loss points and then being walking you knowit’s easy to get some steps out and it is been slightly or difficult with beingat residence now I most often try and make an effort to get external and go for a walkfor whatever daily but yeah I’ve really dialed back to only a prettybasic fast exercise for you already know muscles maintenance I suppose the previous like 5 daysI felt like 15,000 steps a day however like now not most days i am like not even comingclose to like 6 or 7 oh yeah yeah mine um that you could continually inform like I don’ttrack that that i am now not very dedicated to my tracking but i’ll assess you canalways see which days I didn’t go away the apartment so it will be like you knowthirteen thousand steps eleven,000 steps 15,000 and then 2500 steps yep that’s Ihave the Apple watch so each time like on the end of everyday I appear at it andlike like right now what I bought like 60 despite the fact that we went out today I didn’treally do a lot I was simply reset but I was once at like 6,500 for the day before today yeah soand simply cuz all we did was go to the movies and then got here residence yeah I took anap for 3 hours yeah a variety of plenty of nothing however it’s Sunday it is okayyeah there you go you gotta have some relaxation timing that is it is a good excuseJosh i will can help you get onto the relaxation of your Sunday I admire you taking thetime we’re manner over time allotment right here so thank you oh yeah no problemalways blissful to talk guys keep in mind to investigate out Josh’s channel hyperlinks willbe down within the description or within the exhibit notes when you hearken to somepodcasts it is Josh fan also Instagram remains to be bearded fats loss is it Josh fan noit’s really Josh fan with no oh the Hat anyone else has my name and i askedif they would provide it up and so they said no but J sh f e and N and there’s linksall that on youtube so for those who simply rush its obtained hyperlinks to all of it you’ll findall these things however he certainly has some quality content and i play stated we’vecollabed before however i have been following what you’re doing for years now and yeahwe’ve been taking part somewhat bit and we’re perpetually talking so definitelyworth testing pleasant stuff notably like with the cat businessI’m rather simply to see how that that turns out to this point like like Isaid it can be type of some thing I fell into and yeah I like it although it’s so muchfun yeah i am very curious to peer how it the way it pans out too definite you’re as wellyeah your business alright thank again guys despite the fact that all of the links within the shownotes be certain to check that out and i will see you subsequent time